Nerd Chow — Okay, I have to ask. First, in what world was...

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nimbusllewelyn asked:

Okay, I have to ask. First, in what world was Peter Parker making a deal with 616's Satan equivalent (or one of them) considered to be a good idea? Second, when it was claimed that the Spider-Marriage made it 'hard' to write stories by someone whose name I forget, they were making a poor excuse. Marriage can be made to work in comics, Reed and Sue being the prime example, and it worked with Peter and MJ. If that was the real reason, I'm disappointed. If not, what was it?

brevoortformspring answered:

Did time suddenly rewind to 2007 again or something?

vbartilucci

Were you honestly expecting us them to forget?

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I honestly expect you to be able to get over it, and move on with your life. OMD did not sit well with me. I dropped the 616 Spider-Man books afterwards. That seemed enough for me.

Marvel has said what they are going to say on the subject. Asking these questions today comes off as an unhealthy obsession, trying to ring water out of a rock.

Let it go, and focus on things you like. 

vbartilucci

This commenter may be under the impression that I posted the original question to Tom Brevoort: I did not. Having said that…

There’s a subtle difference between still not liking how a story ended, and being so cathexed in the hatred that you cannot function. 

I will never like the choices made in OMD. Nor will I accept the changes made to Star Wars: A New Hope in re: Han not shooting first.  There are PLENTY of stories that didn’t go as I’d liked, and a LOT of them are in comics.  Lots of folks (raises hand) are still pissed off by the headshotting of Blue Beetle, or the rape of Sue Dibny, and rightly so.

I have let none of them prevent me from continuing to enjoy reading, both comics and other types of fiction.

Nothing will convince me that OMD was the best way to go.  But Dan Slott has done so much amazing stuff with Spider-Man since, I can still enjoy the character’s adventures.

My love for the Ted Kord incarnation of Blue Beetle is not insignificant, but I REALLY liked the Jaime Reyes version, at least the pre-52 and Batman: Brave and the Bold versions.

So if by “let it go” you simply mean “don’t let it affect your life moving forward, and allow yourself to enjoy later stories with that character”, I agree.  

If you mean “Admit that you’;re wrong and that story was actually great and you’re a fool for disagreeing…”

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Fair enough.

I am going more along the lines of your first “if”. This thread started from a response to a dude who is asking questions in regards to One More Day, as if it is still a hot off the presses story, and Marvel hasn’t already given as much illumination on the subject as they want to. 

A Google search would have given him more substance than anything Brevoort was going to provide here. Dude did not even remember it was Quesada who went on at length, about not being happy with the marriage, his reasons why it needed to be reversed, or why divorce or death would not have worked. He at least would have then known that to Quesada (at the very least), Spider-Man does not have the same dynamic as the Fantastic Four, so the same family criteria does not hold in the way he is using it

No, he chose to go on Anon, and as his inane question like this was still a fresh story. I don’t take folks like that seriously, and with all the correspondence Brevoort gets, I have to assume his tolerance for it is even lower.

In case you have not read the other follow ups I have made on this, I did not like One More Day. It soured me to 616 Peter Parker. I lost interest in his stories, and quit buying the books. I still like Spider-Man, and get enough of his adventures in other books. I just don’t care about the man behind the mask, and I am OK with that. Nothing last forever.

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Personally, I think OMD was an amazing story. I agree that it didn’t have to be done and saying that a married Peter Parker was too hard to write stories about is just insane.

I hated what happened. I mean passionately hated. I was teared up and yelling and cursing at the Spider-Gods. Think about that for a second though… it was a story that pulled that kind of emotion out of fans that seven years later we are still hurt by it. Not since 121 has a Spidey-story really pulled that kind of reaction from anyone. This wasn’t the nightmare of 90s Spider-Man clones and what not… this was raw emotion that made you want to bitch slap everyone at Marvel even if they had nothing to do with it (truth is, if anything, I hate Iron Man immensely because of that story).

Then like was mentioned before, some simply stellar stories have come since then. So it wasn’t simply a tactic to save the book, it was just a chapter in a very amazing (no pun intended) series.

Since then, the only comic that really got that kind of emotional response from me was the Death of [Ultimate] Peter Parker. I appreciate a story that can actually get me to hurt and emotional feel wrecked after reading it. That is perfect story telling if you ask me.

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